Curse

Sha Noran · Jan 28, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

First of all, the Hall of Monuments already failed.

Secondly, if you continued to not notice that the Hall of Monuments had failed, continued grinding endlessly for the next two or three years until GW2 release in an attempt to gain HoM rewards in GW2, and then raged on youtube/etc. when they give you a non-max weapon or a very common minipet as a reward in GW2, 99% of the people who saw it would get a massive lol at you, and you would be flamed into internet nothingness.

credit · Jan 28, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Crescent Sky

It wasn't really grind, just a lot of stuff to do (depending on what titles you did. No offense, if u included stuff like kurz/lux, and treasure hunter for your koabd, then you DID have to grind.)

Yeah, it's a grind. And who cares about HoM, it won't give you any bonuses.

Kattar · Jan 28, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

If????

You mean it hasn't already

Crap, you beat me to it.

slowerpoke · Jan 28, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

HoM failed from the start

We thought ANet were gonna fix it, but i guess theyre all too busy playing tf2 er workin on gw2

Bryant Again · Jan 28, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

I play for fun, not for leetness. And I can't believe people are complaining about not getting any "decent" rewards in GW2. I've never heard of people being upset that all their time was wasted in FFX when FFXII came out.

Sha Noran · Jan 28, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

And I can't believe people are complaining about not getting any "decent" rewards in GW2. I've never heard of people being upset that all their time was wasted in FFX when FFXII came out.

Oh man Bryant, godly comparison. +100 intranets for you.

Lionhe4rt · Jan 28, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

HoM? I couldn't care less.. I have my nice Norn and Sunspear armor placed in it, my protector titles, a few minipets and a destroyer bow. It isnt as much as most people have, but whatever I get in GW2, I am fine with it. (although I do hope for a copy of my Norn armor :P)

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I've never heard of people being upset that all their time was wasted in FFX when FFXII came out.

QFT! =)

Yawgmoth · Jan 28, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

HoM already failed, it's far far from what it could be, from what it was overhyped and expected to be.

I completely don't care about it as long as it stays in it's current form. There's nothing a primarily pvp player playing pve without dedicating to one character can make out of it.

If GW2 will be a better game I will play it no matter if they fix HoM or not. But it will be a shame to see a dedicated player playing 7k++ hours since before the release get (almost) completely nothing...

**cosyfiep** · Jan 28, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

since I dont plan on getting gw2 I dont really care about what may or maynot transfer over into it......the HoM is a bit of fun for my characters ---to show their accomplishments NOW, not in 200 years, geesh.

damkel · Jan 28, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

HoM was a great idea. What other game has tried something like that?

Granted it hasn't worked out as most people would have liked, but hey. Maybe Anet have learned from their mistakes and are going to improve upon the concept in GW2.

As said before, i'm looking forward to the whole 'newbie' feeling when the game comes out. Standing in town flaunting obsidian armour with a Gwen minipet by one's side doesn't sound like fun to me *lame*.

HawkofStorms · Jan 28, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

HoM already failed, it's far far from what it could be, from what it was overhyped and expected to be.

You see, that is what ticked off most people.
A.net hyped it up SO much. The Eye of the North, the building with the HoM in it, is the name of the game. It is clearly supposed to be the centerpiece of the expansion.
Compare the HoM of GW:EN to Factions additions to the game (titles, Kurzick/Luxon faction, "Imperial Commendations" for quests, AB) and NF (heros, inscription, *shudder* HB *shudder*) and GW:EN seems so pathetic. Granted, its an expansion. Doesn't change the fact that everybody had way too high expectations and it was way overhyped

GrimEye · Jan 28, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

First of all, what else is there to do before GW2 arrives?

At least, HoM provides certain structure of "goal". Of course, those not doing HoM maybe be focus on one aspect of the game (PVP, Farming, PVE questing, blah), while those doing HoM are giving the game one last run on all aspect of the game (PVP, Farming, PVE, questing, blah). So, actually, people doing HoM and people not doing HoM are, basically, doing the same thing.

We have two future alternate possibility:

1. HoM FAILS TO DELIVER on "cool" benefits. Those who had done HoM and those who had not done HoM, gets an equal fat nothing.

2. HoM DELIVERS on "cool" benefits. Those who had done HoM gets the benefit, and those who had not done HoM whines or start doing HoM.

So if you're not doing HoM, what are you doing in-game before GW2 arrives? I bet those doing HoM are doing the same thing. Funny isn't it?

My take.

DarkWasp · Jan 29, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I've never heard of people being upset that all their time was wasted in FFX when FFXII came out.

Its this generation of gamers. It's all debates and worries and complaints. Whatever happened to the good ol fassioned excitement!?

Zeek Aran · Jan 29, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

Its this generation of gamers. It's all debates and worries and complaints. Whatever happened to the good ol fassioned excitement!?

Forums. Without this exchange of information, how many people here would know what's going on and what we are and aren't getting?

King's Spectre · Jan 29, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Everyone already knows the reward with be worthless, a title or mini pet or the equivilent of the pre-sale weapons.

If you expect to get some major reward for it then you are setting yourself up for a major dissapointment.

What he said. My only hope is that whatever it is, it can't be traded. Bad enough to have "I wasted my life on GW and all I got was this festival hat", worse would be "I bought this from some guy who wasted his life on GW for 10k."

Skyy High · Jan 29, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I still don't why people keep saying the HoM has failed. I have two complaints with the thing: the weapon monument only accepting destroyer weps, and the fact that "rearrange" means "cycle through your stuff in the same order every time".

The first probably comes down to ANet not wanting to create monuments for each weapon in the game and corresponding rewards in GW2; I've accepted that and moved on (to the point of acquiring all 11 destroyer weps for my main char, hurrah). The second...I'm still hoping they're going to fix that some day, but it doesn't break the entire thing into shards of fail.

Seriously, what's wrong with the minipet monument (which we knew we were getting)?
What's wrong with displaying ascended armors only - we knew from the start that we weren't going to be able to display our standard 1k max armor there. Also, hey, we got our wish as far as displaying our characters in the armor, instead of a generic set, no?
What's wrong with not instantly getting 35 statues in the companion monument; the pets are easy to get, and the heroes can either be acquired very easily (provided you hadn't already farmed and sold them on that char...), or bought for less than 5k per monument. Hardly an absurd investment, and the statues look impressive.
And finally *drumroll* what's wrong with the Honor monument? Literally, you finish the campaigns, not even acquiring the protector titles, and you get some of the best looking monuments possible. This isn't even going into the fact that there are immense numbers of monuments for completing pretty much everything else in the game. If your Honor monument is empty, and you don't plan on having anything in it in a year or so, what the heck are you doing when you're in game?

So...seriously, can someone please explain to me why people are still going on about the HoM failing? What were your expectations of this thing? One monument out of 5 is pretty much a failure, the weapons one; it's totally different from what we imagined, but that's *gasp* just one part of it. What else is so much different than you imagined it would be?

HawkofStorms · Jan 29, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Alright, I'll answer some of your questions Skyy.

First of all, there were other things wrong with the HoM. At release, it was fairly bugged, with stupid mistakes like customizing weapons without giving a 20% damage boast (great testing there).

Ascended armors only is fine. Not allowing mixed sets is kinda silly. I HAVE to buy all 5 pieces of my 15k armor from the same set. Mixed sets often look better and more unique, as you often stand out in a crowd. 5 different pieces of 15k armor can't be put in.

Minipet I don't have a problem with... now that they got rid of that stupid customization to minis that restricted them to one character (again, this wasn't implimented properly at release).

The Compainion monument. You can only display a limited number of heroes (five?) at a time, not all of them.

The honor monument. Only certain titles can be displayed. Some that are really easy to get, like Max Sunspear, can be put in there. Others, like the hero title track, require you to get way more relative effort. Rank... 7? hero is way harder to get then max SS. The scale of what titles should be and shouldn't be put into the HoM is all off.

Really, the HoM was just very unpolished when GW:EN was sold. It felt too rushed.

Tender Wolf · Jan 29, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

I'd be sooo mad but I'd still play Guild Wars 2. I'm really looking forward to it. In some ways, HOM is already a failure (like only allowing Destroyer weapons to be placed in it), and now there's talk that we may not even be able to wear the armors we're putting in there yet it's stated in PC Gamer we'll be able to use the weapons. So...yeah. But anyway I'll still play.

Ku Ku · Jan 29, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

You seem to have little belief in anet's rewarding of players... imo they seem to be pretty good at giving things back. I have faith that whatever i get will suit my achievements and reflect on the fact we will be starting a new game from scratch. I love the idea that somewhere down the line there will be that same pre-searing nostolgia we all hold dear XD

VitisVinifera · Jan 29, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19

count me in with the 'it already failed' group

it pretty much blows, was horribly conceived and implemented, and way overhyped for the steaming pile it is

that being that, GW2 is a different game and I pretty much write off any effect my GW1 accomplishments will have on it

any CR damage control on this? didn't think so.